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| From: | "Nick Maclaren" <nmm@wheeler.UUCP> |
| Newsgroups: | comp.compilers |
| Date: | 9 Apr 2018 16:45:12 -0000 |
| Organization: | Old Fogies Society |
| References: | <0d4dc7f8-1819-43e5-8082-6ff7aee5f41b@googlegroups.com> <pafisn$1n9t$1@gioia.aioe.org> <pafjtv$ocr$1@dont-email.me> <pag2qg$lq4$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
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| Keywords: | standards |
| Posted-Date: | 10 Apr 2018 11:06:25 EDT |
| Originator: | nmm@wheeler.UUCP (Nick Maclaren) |
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In article <pag2qg$lq4$1@gioia.aioe.org>,
Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> wrote:
>On 2018-04-09 7:48 AM, David Brown wrote:
>
>>> GCC tools are for the most part using old compiler technology.
>>> Some of is decades old.
>>
>> You are fond of saying that, but I don't remember hearing any
>> details or examples.
>
>- Strategy passes to determine how an applications should be compiled
>this time.
Yes. Yuck. It's a nightmare for debugging, and makes it damn-near
impossible to tune code that is going to be run by someone else.
>- Direct compiling to machine code and not using intermediate assembler
>to get away from the two copy problem with code generation ISA restrictions.
Well, er, yes, in theory. But suitable intermediate non-text languages
(assembler is, I agree, outdated) are a vast simplification of compilers
that are designed for multiple source languages and multiple target
machines. gcc is one such.
>- Whole application building. Why is linking still being done when its
>purpose was to get around computer limitations?
No, it wasn't. That was ONE purpose. A far more important one was to
allow and support separate compilation, as needed when an application
uses a library built by someone else. And how many large and serious
programs DON'T do that?
Regards,
Nick Maclaren.
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